This file keeps track of questions and discussions from Gitter and general help with various issues.
Please be aware that some things noted here might be highly outdated. If you find an outdated section, please create a PR which removes or updates it!
How to omit consent redirection
Is it possible to omit the consent redirection flow (not just skip the UI). After accepting the login, redirect to callback URL with the authorization code directly (no redirect to consent URL at all)?
You can't skip the consent redirection, but you can accept the redirection to the redirect URL immediately. The user won't notice as this takes less than < 100ms. The example on how to skip the consent screen provides a good starting point: Skipping Consent Screen.
How can I store custom data ?
How can I store custom data in the client that can be retrieved along with the login request (using the challenge code)? I would like send in some metadata to the /oauth2/auth endpoint that can be retrievable by the "challenge code" that Hydra creates.
You can do this using the
Both Login and Consent Requests have a
request url which contains
the original OAuth2 Authorize URL (for example
RequestURL is the original OAuth 2.0 Authorization URL requested by the OAuth 2.0 client. It's the URL which initiates the OAuth 2.0 Authorization Code or OAuth 2.0 Implicit flow. This URL is typically not needed, but might come in handy if you want to deal with additional request parameters.
How can I control SQL connection limits?
You can configure SQL connection limits by appending parameters
max_conn_idle_time to the DSN:
Why is the Resource Owner Password Credentials grant not supported?
The following is a copy of the original comment on GitHub:
I took a long time for this issue, primarily because I felt very uncomfortable implementing it. The ROPC grant is something from the "dark ages" of OAuth2 and there are suitable replacements for mobile clients, such as public oauth2 clients, which are supported by Hydra:
The OAuth2 Thread Model explicitly states that the ROPC grant is commonly used in legacy/migration scenarios, and
This grant type has higher risk because it maintains the UID/password anti-pattern. Additionally, because the user doesn't have control over the authorization process, clients using this grant type aren't limited by scope but instead have potentially the same capabilities as the user themselves. As there is no authorization step, the ability to offer token revocation is bypassed. Because passwords are often used for more than 1 service, this anti-pattern may also put at risk whatever else is accessible with the supplied credential. Additionally, any derived equivalent (such as email@example.com and firstname.lastname@example.org) might allow someone to guess that the same password can be used elsewhere. Impact: The resource server can only differentiate scope based on the access token being associated with a particular client. The client could also acquire long-lived tokens and pass them up to an attacker's web service for further abuse. The client, eavesdroppers, or endpoints could eavesdrop the user id and password. Except for migration reasons, minimize use of this grant type.
Thus, I decided to not implement the ROPC grant in Hydra. Over time, I will add documentation how to deal with mobile scenarios and similar.
Should I use OAuth2 tokens for authentication?
OAuth2 tokens are like money. It allows you to buy stuff, but the cashier does not really care if the money is yours or if you stole it, as long as it's valid money. Depending on what you understand as authentication, this is a yes and no answer:
- Yes: You can use access tokens to find out which user ("subject") is performing an action in a resource provider (blog article service, shopping basket, ...). Coming back to the money example: You, the subject, receives a cappuccino from the vendor (resource provider) in exchange for money (access token).
- No: Never use access tokens for logging people in, for example
http://myapp.com/login?access_token=.... Coming back to the money example: The police officer ("authentication server") won't accept money ("access token") as a proof of identity ("it's really you"). Unless he is corrupt ("vulnerable"), of course.
In the second example ("authentication server"), you must use OpenID Connect ID Tokens.
How to deal with mobile apps?
Read this article.
How should I run migrations?
Since Ory Hydra 0.8.0, migrations are no longer run automatically on boot. This is required in production environments, because:
- Although SQL migrations are tested, migrating schemas can cause data loss and should only be done consciously with prior back-ups.
- Running a production system with a user that has right such as ALTER TABLE is a security anti-pattern.
Thus, to initialize the database schemas, it's required to run
hydra migrate sql driver://user:password@host:port/db before
What does the installation process look like?
hydra migrate sql ...on a host close to the database (for example a virtual machine with access to the SQL instance).
What does a migration process look like?
- Make sure a database update is required by checking the release notes.
- Make a back up of the database.
- Run the migration script on a host close to the database (for example a virtual machine with access to the SQL instance). Schemas are usually backwards compatible, so instances running previous versions of Ory Hydra should keep working fine. If backwards compatibility isn't given, this will be addressed in the patch notes.
- Upgrade all Ory Hydra instances.
How can I do this in docker?
Many deployments of Ory Hydra use Docker. Although several options are available, we advise to extend the Ory Hydra Docker image
ENTRYPOINT hydra migrate sql --yes $DATABASE_URL
and run it in your infrastructure once.
Additionally, but not recommended, it's possible to override the entry point of the Ory Hydra Docker image using CLI flag
--entrypoint "hydra migrate sql --yes $DATABASE_URL; hydra host" or with
entrypoint: hydra migrate sql $DATABASE_URL; hydra host set in your docker compose config.
Can I set the log level to warn, error, debug, ...?
Yes, you can do so by setting the environment variable
LOG_LEVEL=<level>. There are various levels supported:
How can I import TLS certificates?
You can import TLS certificates when running
hydra host. This can be done by setting the following environment variables:
Read from file
HTTPS_TLS_CERT_PATH: The path to the TLS certificate (pem encoded).
HTTPS_TLS_KEY_PATH: The path to the TLS private key (pem encoded).
HTTPS_TLS_CERT: A pem encoded TLS certificate passed as string. Can be used instead of TLS_CERT_PATH.
HTTPS_TLS_KEY: A pem encoded TLS key passed as string. Can be used instead of TLS_KEY_PATH.
Or by specifying the following flags:
--https-tls-cert-path string Path to the certificate file for HTTP/2 over TLS (https). You can set HTTPS_TLS_KEY_PATH or HTTPS_TLS_KEY instead.
--https-tls-key-path string Path to the key file for HTTP/2 over TLS (https). You can set HTTPS_TLS_KEY_PATH or HTTPS_TLS_KEY instead.
How can I disable HTTPS for testing?
You can do so by running
hydra host --dangerous-force-http.
unsupported Scan, storing driver.Value type uint8 into type *time.Time
did a quick test to get mysql running, but run into migrate sql issue - seems mysql related An error occurred while running the migrations: Couldn't apply ladon SQL migrations: Couldn't migrate sql schema, applied 0 migrations: sql: Scan error on column index 0: unsupported Scan, storing driver.Value type uint8 into type *time.Time is this a known bug ? or any specific mysql version which is required (running 5.7) ?
hydra help host
- MySQL: If DATABASE_URL is a DSN starting with mysql:// MySQL will be used as storage backend.
Be aware that the ?parseTime=true parameter is mandatory, or timestamps won't work.
The docker image exits immediately
Check the logs using
docker logs <container-id>.
Hey there , I am getting this error when I try request an access token "The request used a security parameter (such as, anti-replay, anti-csrf) with insufficient entropy (minimum of 8 characters)" Kareem Diaa @kimooz Jun 07 16:41 Hey there , I am getting this error when I try request an access token "The request used a security parameter (such as, anti-replay, anti-csrf) with insufficient entropy (minimum of 8 characters)" Aeneas @arekkas Jun 07 16:41 @kimooz make sure state and nonce are set in your auth code url (http://hydra/oauth2/auth?client_id=...&nonce=THIS_NEEDS_TO_BE_SET&state=THIS_ALSO_NEEDS_TO_BE_SET
I get compile errors
I would try deleting the vendor dir and glide’s files and try glide init again or clear Glide’s global cache. follow the steps in the readme https://github.com/ory/hydra#building-from-source
Kareem Diaa @kimooz 15:48 One last question if you don't mind from your experience do you think that saving the user access token in a session and validating it from the client on ever refresh does that make sense or not? using the introspect endpoint
Aeneas @arekkas 15:51 nah, simply write your http calls in a way that if a 401 or 403 occurs, the token is refreshed that's the easiest and cleanest
Hydra won't remember my login
Hydra only keeps track of the session if you set the
remember_me parameter in the
accept login request. Otherwise, the login
challenge will always instruct you to show the login UI.
Where can I get documentation on running multiple instances of Hydra?
Hydra scales according to 12 factor principles. Just add another instance with the same config. Please check the documentation section for 12 factor principles.There is also some information on collecting statistics in the section on prometheus in the five minute tutorial.
Is it possible to disable/enable certain flows in Hydra?
Is it possible to leave only OpenID authorization code grant flow, while disabling all the rest of the flows in Hydra? Is it configurable that way?
Yes - you can configure that in your client. It has things like grant_types etc - there you can basically whitelist the flows you need.
How can I test if my 4445 is running properly?
I am using ory hydra for authentication. I get a 404 when im trying to create a client on my private EC2 hydra task. Is there a way to test if my 4445 is running properly?
You can check /health/alive, to see if it's alive. and /health/ready, to see if it's also in ready state (meaning db connectivity works).